Subject	Either way. My point is that opposition should be
Posted by	cherry on September 08, 2011 at 4:35 PM
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In Reply To	Buttons are too small - would be largely unnoticed from afar posted by dogpile on September 08, 2011 at 04:04 PM
Message	ORGANIZED in a way that allows people to recognize that support of AMS does a disservice not only to vendors, but to Z car owners as well. So whether that opposition is symbolized by a flag or a button (or some other means), the object should contain a URL that links to a website presenting the case. That way, consumers (ZCCA, other clubs, and car owners themselves) can be educated about the issue, and how it affects them. On the topic of flags vs. buttons: Flags can be removed off of cars pretty easily by anyone who has views to the contrary of those espoused by the flag bearer -- whenever the owner is not looking. Buttons have better staying power. Also, buttons can be made in a variety of sizes, including HUGE ones that'll definitely be seen.
Follow Ups	West Coast people better plan on making it to ZCON 2012 - Piranha 00:01:34 09/08/11 Dust or bust...Just in case the Mayans had it right (n/m) - ttz'in (NorCal) 00:04:31 09/08/11 That's true... this could be the last one ever lol (n/m) - Piranha 00:07:54 09/08/11 Along with the Hindu and Hopi, they all bailed out - ttz'in (NorCal) 00:11:27 09/08/11 Great vid Shane, even if it iz 145 megs, lol. - ttz'in (NorCal) 01:53:58 09/08/11 Cali-busters won't show. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 00:16:34 09/08/11 No loss,we're going to get HighPsi (NorCal) &.. - ttz'in (NorCal) 00:27:40 09/08/11 I can't wait for that. If y all are down, I am planning on - HighPsi (NorCal) 01:16:28 09/08/11 Yes Sir, great place to caravan from - ttz'in (NorCal) 01:21:06 09/08/11 Maybe we can get Greg/Seb/Brooke out on the town as well (n/m) - HighPsi (NorCal) 01:47:16 09/08/11 Along with Mr.Hornsby and 100 crazed Z owners (n/m) - ttz'in (NorCal) 02:02:19 09/08/11 Yea an SZ Dyno/Tuning day sounds like a good idea! - Piranha 08:48:55 09/08/11 Sounds awesome, let me know. (n/m) - HighPsi (NorCal) 11:28:02 09/08/11 LOL..your setup has to be stupid fast alrerady! - The Hawk 11:48:51 09/08/11 Ka-Boom ! lol. (n/m) - ttz'in (NorCal) 17:55:33 09/08/11 Who needs a retirement account when you have cars? - HighPsi (NorCal) 19:48:15 09/08/11 You better be here! Remember a few years ago sitting - Piranha 08:34:44 09/08/11 I'll be there - getting the car there is the trick. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 21:25:05 09/08/11 I'm hoping to make it. I believe ttz'in and I will be - Wright (Ca) 00:19:25 09/08/11 Hoping ? You must be kidding. If an old man like.. - ttz'in (NorCal) 00:48:58 09/08/11 Road trip! - 1BADTTZ (SoCal) 00:37:09 09/08/11 Re: Road trip! - jmallard 01:48:28 09/08/11 Yep - me too. (n/m) - ELIM 14:26:22 09/08/11 I effin' hope so - BlackholeZ 00:42:42 09/08/11 I think I can take that title :[ (n/m) - JonnyZ(SoCal) 00:48:40 09/08/11 I looked at your profile - BlackholeZ 01:49:37 09/08/11 We like all Z32s here... more the better! (n/m) - Piranha 08:57:07 09/08/11 one way or the other i'll be there. - nemo1080 (Iowa) 00:54:16 09/08/11 Least we forget Messers Dupree & Chacoff... (n/m) - ttz'in (NorCal) 00:57:17 09/08/11 Will AMS be a sponsor? - Evan(CA) 02:02:35 09/08/11 Would be a great idea, especially to add HaloZ's tagline (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 08:49:10 09/08/11 2nd (n/m) - Zski 09:07:55 09/08/11 This was my thought. - FuerGrissa 23:52:11 09/08/11 Will definitely be there - ZXRider 02:27:32 09/08/11 Cool Ben, B good to see you again. (n/m) - ttz'in (NorCal) 02:44:54 09/08/11 Bringing the new Z? - ZXRider 15:25:54 09/09/11 I'll be there. (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 02:39:12 09/08/11 `yep - Halo TTZ 04:54:16 09/08/11 If AMS is a Sponsor then I will boycott 2012 ZCON!!!! - Zski 08:26:42 09/08/11 That will be up to the ZCCA (n/m) - Piranha 08:31:53 09/08/11 I know... But I really hope AMS is not a sponsor... - Zski 08:37:59 09/08/11 Zcon hasn't been out this way since AMS became known... - Piranha 08:55:41 09/08/11 Wishful Thinking, but I hope you Right!!! (n/m) - Zski 09:06:06 09/08/11 Or to close to the other border, lol. (n/m) - ttz'in (NorCal) 17:46:49 09/08/11 Why the hate on Texas? Texas is amazing to drive through. (n/m) - Milo (SATX) 14:58:31 09/08/11 None ;) (n/m) - Zski 16:12:43 09/08/11 Yeah, amazingly flat.. (n/m) - ttz'in (NorCal) 17:48:00 09/08/11 wrong. (n/m) - 300twinz (satx) 21:50:48 09/08/11 The excitement faded after the first 10 tumbleweeds. (n/m) - rojoloco (San Diego) 14:00:28 09/10/11 What a great place for Mike Smith and Vuk to have a face to - DarkZide 19:23:21 09/08/11 Yep like you and your AMS beer lol - Piranha 20:57:05 09/08/11 Here... - Piranha 21:03:10 09/08/11 It's cheaper than american beer, but gives a worse hangover! - DarkZide 21:52:29 09/08/11 Not sure if things have changed but it has been - 300twinz (satx) 08:55:05 09/08/11 I'm curious... how much money do they pay to to be a - Piranha 09:01:13 09/08/11 for 2011 ZCON it was 6k+ - Zski 09:03:53 09/08/11 sounds like its time for tt.net members to start taking up - Adam (NoVA) 10:30:36 09/08/11 Steep, but if we could get 20 people to sign on, I'd do it - BigTDogg (MA) 10:58:25 09/08/11 While the sentiments are noble... - vorpalZ 12:05:36 09/08/11 2nd. This should definitely be pursued. - cherry 13:00:44 09/08/11 Something like this: - cherry 15:50:45 09/08/11 Buttons are too small - would be largely unnoticed from afar - dogpile 16:04:08 09/08/11 Either way. My point is that opposition should be - cherry 16:35:55 09/08/11 fair enough on the button reply. - dogpile 16:55:41 09/08/11 How aboot something simple: - vorpalZ 17:43:10 09/08/11 Am in for t-shirts with that logo on it. - 300twinz (satx) 18:08:43 09/08/11 If we have 100+ cars flying flags there is no way they - Evan(CA) 18:15:39 09/08/11 They'll be cheaper if AMS copies them. (n/m) - Rob'Z 19:31:49 09/08/11 AMS gave $3750 worth of Cash/Product for ZCON 2011 (n/m) - Zski 12:01:13 09/08/11 tragic (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 12:48:02 09/08/11 100 sets of their tin foil manifolds, awesome. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 13:05:32 09/08/11 No they didn't. - Bernie (NoVA) 13:45:14 09/08/11 Which non-Japanese exotic car will Vuk show up in next time? (n/m) - Aqualung 13:49:09 09/08/11 I head they will bring a new new beetle - Halo TTZ 17:16:51 09/08/11 AMS / China' s Next Car show cased at ZCON 2012 - Zski 09:39:20 09/10/11 Yup, and some other things you didnt mention... (n/m) - Zski 16:11:50 09/08/11 did u fall for the free rooms bit? (n/m) - Halo TTZ 16:55:13 09/08/11 Halo, Me Personally? (n/m) - Zski 16:58:00 09/08/11 so 2011 planning committee did... - Halo TTZ 17:13:17 09/08/11 Halo, To my knowledge.... - Zski 17:28:44 09/08/11 fail. - Halo TTZ 17:34:00 09/08/11 Sorry, I miss understood you Halo... This is what they got>> - Zski 17:40:16 09/08/11 Fail on my part, i should have worded it better. (n/m) - Halo TTZ 17:56:15 09/08/11 Exactly you guys set the packages and the vendors - 300twinz (satx) 18:10:09 09/08/11 I think that some real constructive progress could be made - Adam (NoVA) 18:26:37 09/08/11 300twinz, I am not sure who made the Sponsorship packet... - Zski 18:35:25 09/08/11 I can double check but am pretty sure for 2009 - 300twinz (satx) 10:30:02 09/08/11 Been there, tried that... they DO NOT care. (n/m) - Multi_Read (MO) 09:19:39 09/08/11 this is the other correct answer - LJZTT 12:50:45 09/08/11 Re: this is the other correct answer - Dallas DamonZ 13:05:48 09/08/11 Damon4Prez (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 13:13:48 09/08/11 Very true!!! Hope you can make it out here Damon :) (n/m) - Piranha 13:20:08 09/08/11 Did you get my email this morning? (n/m) - Dallas DamonZ 13:30:34 09/08/11 Why do we have to do this.... >>>> TTcon > ZCON - Zski 16:16:41 09/08/11 well, my top 10 reasons would be... - Adam (NoVA) 16:48:09 09/08/11 Yes I just just did. - Piranha 16:50:29 09/08/11 :-) (n/m) - cherry 14:56:12 09/08/11 couldnt have said it better myself (n/m) - LJZTT 09:42:45 09/09/11 Agreed 1000%, I'm sure there are true enthusiasts left at - BigTDogg (MA) 10:05:24 09/08/11 Right Behind you Brother (n/m) - Zski 10:13:26 09/08/11 Will never happen. - ZiNnYc 12:05:43 09/08/11 Even if it did happen, wouldn't ZCCA just see it as that - dogpile 12:15:37 09/08/11 this year yes it would happen, but if someone took the floor - LJZTT 13:09:34 09/08/11 All that has been said though, by numerous people. - dogpile 13:19:25 09/08/11 Gotta go "Ross Perot" with it, pictures speak volumes (n/m) - LJZTT 19:26:39 09/08/11 I've come to the conclusion that ZCCA will continue to take - Bernie (NoVA) 11:01:24 09/08/11 Re: I've come to the conclusion that ZCCA will continue to take - Dallas DamonZ 13:02:23 09/08/11 This is very true. When sitting down and going over - Milo (SATX) 15:01:03 09/08/11 Agreed, that's why I'm not going. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 08:48:35 09/08/11 plus that would be a long drive - Piranha 08:53:03 09/08/11 Not gonna happen unless I fly out there. Still, there's a 1% - BigTDogg (MA) 13:02:38 09/08/11 Fly into L.A. T, hang @ SZ head to AZ and fly home - ttz'in (NorCal) 17:52:45 09/08/11 I agree with your points, but - dpjax 08:49:51 09/08/11 Yes, but to Aid the true R&D Companies... Its worth it! (n/m) - Zski 09:02:20 09/08/11 How do the sponsors work exactly? I may have an idea (n/m) - Aqualung 10:17:57 09/08/11 if you have cash or parts you can be a sponsor - Adam (NoVA) 10:32:46 09/08/11 This is the correct answer - LJZTT 12:48:17 09/08/11 Suggestion: start a sponsorship fund - kuah@splparts.com 13:38:41 09/08/11 agreed - Adam (NoVA) 13:40:02 09/08/11 Sorry Adam, missed your post :) (n/m) - kuah@splparts.com 13:42:12 09/08/11 great minds... :) (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 14:02:30 09/08/11 . - ZiNnYc 13:57:14 09/08/11 613.29 - Bernie (NoVA) 14:34:57 09/08/11 I'd be in on that... - zfreak(Dallas) 20:58:19 09/08/11 They should do one in Canada one of these years... - fuzzymonkey 12:21:55 09/08/11 2001. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 12:47:39 09/08/11 Vancouver would be great.... - Halo TTZ 17:35:56 09/08/11 Looking Forward to it Shane! Let me know if there is - DarkZide 19:19:30 09/08/11 Need to clarify a few things... - Piranha 19:50:46 09/08/11
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